A Claim that there are a couple of problems to “Atheistic evolution”

First the claim:

“There are those in the world of science that believe every living thing in the world evolved from a single-cell organism. This is sometimes referred to as macro-evolution. To believe in macro-evolution does not exclude a belief in God. In fact, the Catholic Church (with some conditions) allows for the belief in macro-evolution. Yet, many evolutionists are atheists. They believe that evolution alone explains the existence of life on earth. I, however, see some problems.

Let us assume that macro-evolution is true; that everything evolved from a single-cell organism. You would still need God. Evolution is simply the idea of adaptability. Basically, something changes about an organism’s environment, and the organism must adapt or die. It must “learn” how to survive in its new environment, or the organism faces extinction! This is where evolution (macro and/or micro) comes in.
The organism in question may simply evolve in a small, albeit noticeable, way. An example of this may be seen in the different coat colors some dogs and cats have. For instance, a dog that primarily lives in a mountainous habitat may have a grayish coat; while a dog primarily residing in a desert-type habitat may have a sandy-colored coat. Both are dogs, but they are different types of dog. This is micro-evolution.
The organism in question, however, may evolve into an entirely different type of animal. This is macro-evolution, and it is an apparently lengthy process. So much so, that it is not observable by any one individual. An example may be found in how many scientists believe that some fish evolved into reptiles and amphibians due to changes in the earth’s environment.
At first this may not sound like an unreasonable hypothesis; but a little more digging reveals some problems. If evolution is the source of all life, then what was evolution’s source? Evolution is nothing more than the theory of adaptability. Adaptability is, in essence, change. If we believe that there is no God and evolution created all life, then we can not explain how it is that evolution itself exists. Because evolution is nothing more than the theory of adaptability, then it must be admitted that evolution is nothing more than change.
One of the main tenets of physics, however, teaches us that all change must occur from a source that is not subject to the change it causes. In other words, if evolution is adaptability (change), then this would preclude a belief in God. If every change must have a source that is independent of the change caused, then change itself (adaptability/evolution) must have a source unaffected by change. This source would be constancy itself. This source Christians call God.
Another problem I see is that if evolution is all there is, humans would be an impossibility. Every human being that has ever lived had some sort of personality. Evolution, however, is a person-less force. How can a person-less force cause life that possesses a personality? This is an absolute impossibility! From whence would the personality in human beings (or any other creature for that matter) come from, if God did not exist? A personality can not just appear. It, like all life, must come from a source which also possesses a personality. A personality, once in existence, may change; but it can not simply come from non-existence to existence.
Atheistic evolution simply fails to answer the most basic questions. I do not deny that micro-evolution exists. It is apparent to everyone who has the intelligence to observe that viruses, for example, evolve to become immune to medicines over time. I am not a believer in macro-evolution, but I do not deny that I may be wrong on that point. I simply would like to point out that evolution would not be possible without God!
Peace in Christ,
David J. Pollard
President
American Catholic Solidarity”

Debunked:

There are a couple of problems with this piece. Abiogenesis is not considered and the existence of evolution does not require a creator, it is just something that occurs like gravity, or the formation of planets through supernovae.

Also, if all these things are claimed to exist without a creator and that is unacceptable to you, how is it acceptable for you to believe in god himself, without anything creating him? You see, the same logic applies to how existence exist and how god exists, but by choosing to see that god must have created existence simply because you can’t identify how it must have came about, a biased is exposed… Because you have no idea how god would have came about, or always have existed, either.

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6 thoughts on “A Claim that there are a couple of problems to “Atheistic evolution””

  1. I enjoy the intellectual arguments, but I confess (oops) I grow weary of them at times. And that’s not at all directed at your post. It’s about the energy spent in all too often dead-end banter. As I read the quoted material I couldn’t help but remember an old, but illustrative, gambit. Replace “God” with “Magic” and regurgitate. Hmm, I may do just that. Hope you won’t mind.

  2. Yes, you’re right, but nonetheless, maybe words of wisdom will plant a seed that we may not see materialize immediately, but in the future. But if you wish to replace “God” with “Magic” and regurgitate, feel free!

    -Chris

  3. Reblogged this on humanist human being and commented:
    As I read this interesting post by Chris82179, I couldn’t help but perform a favorite word substitution in my head. I thought I’d share that with you here.

    I’ve always liked the simplicity this word play and it’s reduction of the grandiose, absolute, one and only truth, to its real meaning.

    “There are those in the world of science that believe every living thing in the world evolved from a single-cell organism. This is sometimes referred to as macro-evolution. To believe in macro-evolution does not exclude a belief in Magic. In fact, the Catholic Church (with some conditions) allows for the belief in macro-evolution. Yet, many evolutionists are atheists. They believe that evolution alone explains the existence of life on earth. I, however, see some problems.

    Let us assume that macro-evolution is true; that everything evolved from a single-cell organism. You would still need Magic. Evolution is simply the idea of adaptability. Basically, something changes about an organism’s environment, and the organism must adapt or die. It must “learn” how to survive in its new environment, or the organism faces extinction! This is where evolution (macro and/or micro) comes in.

    The organism in question may simply evolve in a small, albeit noticeable, way. An example of this may be seen in the different coat colors some dogs and cats have. For instance, a dog that primarily lives in a mountainous habitat may have a grayish coat; while a dog primarily residing in a desert-type habitat may have a sandy-colored coat. Both are dogs, but they are different types of dog. This is micro-evolution.

    The organism in question, however, may evolve into an entirely different type of animal. This is macro-evolution, and it is an apparently lengthy process. So much so, that it is not observable by any one individual. An example may be found in how many scientists believe that some fish evolved into reptiles and amphibians due to changes in the earth’s environment.

    At first this may not sound like an unreasonable hypothesis; but a little more digging reveals some problems. If evolution is the source of all life, then what was evolution’s source? Evolution is nothing more than the theory of adaptability. Adaptability is, in essence, change. If we believe that there is no Magic and evolution created all life, then we can not explain how it is that evolution itself exists. Because evolution is nothing more than the theory of adaptability, then it must be admitted that evolution is nothing more than change.

    One of the main tenets of physics, however, teaches us that all change must occur from a source that is not subject to the change it causes. In other words, if evolution is adaptability (change), then this would preclude a belief in Magic. If every change must have a source that is independent of the change caused, then change itself (adaptability/evolution) must have a source unaffected by change. This source would be constancy itself. This source Christians call Magic.

    Another problem I see is that if evolution is all there is, humans would be an impossibility. Every human being that has ever lived had some sort of personality. Evolution, however, is a person-less force. How can a person-less force cause life that possesses a personality? This is an absolute impossibility! From whence would the personality in human beings (or any other creature for that matter) come from, if Magic did not exist? A personality can not just appear. It, like all life, must come from a source which also possesses a personality. A personality, once in existence, may change; but it can not simply come from non-existence to existence.

    Atheistic evolution simply fails to answer the most basic questions. I do not deny that micro-evolution exists. It is apparent to everyone who has the intelligence to observe that viruses, for example, evolve to become immune to medicines over time. I am not a believer in macro-evolution, but I do not deny that I may be wrong on that point. I simply would like to point out that evolution would not be possible without Magic!

    Peace in Christ,
    David J. Pollard
    President
    American Catholic Solidarity”

  4. When you consider that scientists learned quite some time ago to create simple, one cell organisms in the lab by using certain chemicals, natural macro-evolution is not so unbelievable.

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